This is a massive proposal and the team/people behind are really talented and dedicated to xdc community since inception.
I'd really like though if this is presented with some more depth in a month or so. At this time it's also getting overshadowed by XDC community proposal hence it's not getting much participation. Legal team responsible to manage multi sig will definitely not consider 10-11 votes.
I will not cast any vote any this time and request to extend dates.
Also any proposals from here on should be only presented with onchain voting dapp. XDC_community was one off proposal that i thought was worth going through without this process because they've agreed to get the voting dapp live.
I initially thought logo 6 but then logo 5 makes sense. Also i think each of these XDC logos can possibly add XDC the coin logo next to them in suitable colour combinations like the one attached
Thank you Atul for the trust and taking the time to comment.
We are just one day in and the participation is already on a good track. While it will pick up until the end of the voting period, the GDCE presence in the Community will grow massively too.
This was scheduled to run until ONCHAIN VOTE IS READY.
We will further extend the vote to 17.th december,2022 to provide the Community 6 whole weeks for discussion and strenghten their view and positions on this proposal. We are here to answer any questions and provide more depth as required from the XDC Community, as it should be for decentralized projects. More time to engage, share their opinions and questions.
The MVP for the voting dApp is scheduled to be delivered in the first month after budget approval for XDC Community. We will be more then happy to propose this in the voting dApp, if it gets live in-time. (without any unexpected delays in deployment).
regarding your feedback on the logos: Our Graphic Designers are already on it and we will add more logo options in the coming days.
🇨🇭Managing Director @globiance focused on making products and services accessible to all. Enthusiast for blockchain and committed to supporting ecosystem.
As the Managing Director of a Swiss-based regulated crypto company, using XDC based products and beeing a big supporter of the network, I am delighted to lend my full support to the XDC Governance Developer Community Europe initiative. Europe has a thriving crypto community with many experts, projects, and developers, and this initiative represents an excellent opportunity to capitalize on that potential and grow the XDC Network.
One of the major benefits of focusing on Europe is the region's clear legal structure in terms of crypto and blockchain. This creates a stable and predictable environment for compnies/projects, which is critical for the growth and adoption of blockchain and cryptocurrency projects.
I believe that being based in Switzerland, a country known for its regulatory framework and reputation as a global center for finance and technology, is an ideal location for fostering the growth of the XDC Network.
I am working on developing and implementing strategies to grow the business and increase market share in the Swiss/European market - always with the word XDC. Therefore, I would extremely welcome to have the XDC Network as a neighbor in Berlin.
Very ambitious and perfect timing. It’s looking like 2023 is the bridge year with 2024 / 2025 being the first years to have both feet planted on the other side for what’s coming to market in Web 3.
I vote = YES
We need representation in all parts of the world. The more presence we show across the globe, the more realistic the network becomes. Presence is just a tiny bit of the whole picture. Track record of success on those quarterly events planned and executed will speak for GDCE and I am looking forward to seeing those successes.
This is a verry much needed "Europeen team " to grow more the echosystem and making it more decentralised and not just the same people doing it all .. + theHackathons are really amazing and he deserve to have his role in all of this + he was there since early days way before all of us to help and educate all on how this network worked .
My vote is a Yes and should be concidered seriously
I'll not get into the funding part as that's not my area of expertise but I support any effort from the community that makes the project more decentralized and increases the community participation and development effort on the XDC Network.
I'll not get into the funding part as that's not my area of expertise but I support any effort from the community that makes the project more decentralized and increases the community participation and development effort on the XDC Network.
VOTE = YES and 5 (continuity/recognition with main XDC logo)
Very ambitious and perfect timing. It’s looking like 2023 is the bridge year with 2024 / 2025 being the first years to have both feet planted on the other side for what’s coming to market in Web 3.0 . Congrats!
It is a true testament to the growth and strength of this community to see these proposals posted here on XDC.dev. The network is at the beginnings of a very exciting stage, one in which we will witness a steep curve towards greater decentralization and the expansion of developers and initiatives on every continent.
Can is a long time community member who has worked tirelessly to curate this community. The work done on the hackathons, his understanding of blockchain and his egalitarian approach to decentralization and community development has brought incredible value to the community and I support his efforts to bring this type of focus and initiative to Europe.
There are many opportunities which can be developed in Europe where the regulatory environment is clearer than the US, which is why building this community effort in Berlin seems to make a lot of sense.
I believe that as we develop this process of proposals here, we will begin to see more and more demand for funds from innovative teams looking to create a friendly and more supportive environment on the network.
Ease of building on the network and resources to support dev teams and entrepreneurs are important factors leading to accelerated growth on the network, leading us closer to a tipping point in the industry where XDC Network stands out among the top projects.
Industry participation is also critical in bringing about awareness and connecting with industry projects and peers and I am glad to see it in this proposal.
With all that said, I think there are some important details which need to be considered.
In order to reach sustainability in year 2 or even 1.5 years into this initiative, it is going to require a run rate of nearly in $39K of weekly revenue. 37% of that weekly cost will be required for fixed overhead of office space, furniture and fixtures, etc.
While I understand the space will be used as an incubator for projects looking to launch, it is a large number out of the gate and a potential burden for an entity in a startup phase. There is also an additional cost of $3200/week for events which brings the total % of Overhead and shows to nearly 45% of weekly costs.
With sustainability being a main focus of this initiative, it begs the question, is there a way to start with a smaller commitment to fixed overhead so that pressure to meet such a high run rate in such a short period of time is reduced?
I understand that the office space will be used for events/training which will produce revenue but with an event marketing budget of less than 1% of the total ask and no other marketing in the proposal, it seems like it could be a tall task so quickly out of the gate.
There is not any mention of hackathons funds for allocated to them, which do not seem to be coming out of the events budget or bounties.
suggestions for more details:
a) Are we get a better understanding of the cost breakdown of the office space and events?
b) Is there a way to achieve sustainability by starting off with smaller fixed costs and growing the budget as you grow?
c) Are you not planning on having hackathons in the future?
d) Can the $500K funding for L2 projects be unlocked on an as needed basis as opposed to 2/3 at kickoff?
Can and team, thank you for the work you put into this proposal. I am exited to think about the good that can come from this for the network and ecosystem growth.
I also think that this is a great place to have this discussion and see how we can support these types of initiatives to succeed.
I vote for logo = 5
I will add my vote after more feedback and discussion.
thanks for taking the time to read the proposal and provide your great Input!
a) Let me provide more details, Berlin is one of the most expensive cities for rental housing in Europe, a year-on-year price increase of nearly 40 percent for just one-bedroom apartments. Same for Offices. Office costs will always be one of the main expenses.
A smaller office average costs for the team, with room for courses + 1-2 more Incubation Teams, is around $30k. Everything similar, we can secure for a lower price, will be only adding to our operation time with the proposed budget.
As you've mentioned, it is a very good idea to start with a smaller office and scale up depending on demand, so the office budget could very well cover over 18+Months of office rent costs and with coming revenue this will increase until reaching self-sufficiency.
The outlined costs in the proposal, is where we see this initiative getting within the first 12 Months of operation.
It is important to have the liquidity on-hand when needed to scale immediately.
b) Regarding marketing costs, the developers and Teams we are targeting are in Berlin. It will be a local marketing with mainly In-person efforts on Events and networking. The Sales team does only need a salary and no marketing Budget to reach out to potential Partners worldwide.
To add, I won't be getting any salary, only $1 each month symbolically, until we reach full financial sustainability.
This is to show our dedication for the XDC Network and that I fully stand behind the potential of this proposal.
Marketing and advertising on influential local key developer platforms is a lot more cost-effective than a global marketing outreach.
Berlin is a Blockchain "Powerhouse".
Following, you can see a list of some of the upcoming Blockchain events in Berlin.
Most are free of cost to attend, and advertising / sponsoring is very low cost compared to global events. eventbrite.de/d/germany--berlin/bl... . Our biggest asset for advertising will be the Incubation program.
This is a big asset to local Blockchain Event organizers too, and it's worth more than just sponsoring the events, that's why we see the marketing Budget as sufficient for this effort.
c) We are planning for future Hackathons, but just not with Budget from XF or just minimal for the next one. We want to encourage Industry participation, sponsorship and innovation partnerships + talent recruitment funnel for interested parties. All three are commercialized efforts. Due to this fact, we haven't planned a budget for Hackathons from XF because we are certain that we won't need it after the next Hackathon.
d) the $500k funding for L2 projects will be locked and stay under XDC Ecosystem Development Fund custody. It will be partially requested for strategic investments in startups (with a working MVP) which were incubated by the GDCE in our office in Berlin. We won't have any access to the funding.
Option 5, and I vote yes to this. Big yes. Adding this to the arsenal will accelerate the network a ton!!! I also agree with burning XDC. Deflation to the moon!
I chosse option 3-5, a mix of the two designs.
And for sure i vote YES. If you need a content creator, or vid iam in France so i vote : YES!
I want to see XinFin in my contry and everywhere in Europe and around the world.
It’s looking like 2023 is the bridge year with 2024 / 2025 being the first years to have both feet planted on the other side for what’s coming to market in Web 3.0
This is a massive proposal and the team/people behind are really talented and dedicated to xdc community since inception.
I'd really like though if this is presented with some more depth in a month or so. At this time it's also getting overshadowed by XDC community proposal hence it's not getting much participation. Legal team responsible to manage multi sig will definitely not consider 10-11 votes.
I will not cast any vote any this time and request to extend dates.
Also any proposals from here on should be only presented with onchain voting dapp. XDC_community was one off proposal that i thought was worth going through without this process because they've agreed to get the voting dapp live.
I initially thought logo 6 but then logo 5 makes sense. Also i think each of these XDC logos can possibly add XDC the coin logo next to them in suitable colour combinations like the one attached
Thank you Atul for the trust and taking the time to comment.
We are just one day in and the participation is already on a good track. While it will pick up until the end of the voting period, the GDCE presence in the Community will grow massively too.
This was scheduled to run until ONCHAIN VOTE IS READY.
We will further extend the vote to 17.th december,2022 to provide the Community 6 whole weeks for discussion and strenghten their view and positions on this proposal. We are here to answer any questions and provide more depth as required from the XDC Community, as it should be for decentralized projects. More time to engage, share their opinions and questions.
The MVP for the voting dApp is scheduled to be delivered in the first month after budget approval for XDC Community. We will be more then happy to propose this in the voting dApp, if it gets live in-time. (without any unexpected delays in deployment).
regarding your feedback on the logos: Our Graphic Designers are already on it and we will add more logo options in the coming days.
I vote Yes! 🇪🇺🇨🇭
As the Managing Director of a Swiss-based regulated crypto company, using XDC based products and beeing a big supporter of the network, I am delighted to lend my full support to the XDC Governance Developer Community Europe initiative. Europe has a thriving crypto community with many experts, projects, and developers, and this initiative represents an excellent opportunity to capitalize on that potential and grow the XDC Network.
One of the major benefits of focusing on Europe is the region's clear legal structure in terms of crypto and blockchain. This creates a stable and predictable environment for compnies/projects, which is critical for the growth and adoption of blockchain and cryptocurrency projects.
I believe that being based in Switzerland, a country known for its regulatory framework and reputation as a global center for finance and technology, is an ideal location for fostering the growth of the XDC Network.
I am working on developing and implementing strategies to grow the business and increase market share in the Swiss/European market - always with the word XDC. Therefore, I would extremely welcome to have the XDC Network as a neighbor in Berlin.
I vote for Logo #5
absolutely! Thanks for taking the time and sharing your thoughts.
Vote : Yes
Very ambitious and perfect timing. It’s looking like 2023 is the bridge year with 2024 / 2025 being the first years to have both feet planted on the other side for what’s coming to market in Web 3.
I vote = YES
We need representation in all parts of the world. The more presence we show across the globe, the more realistic the network becomes. Presence is just a tiny bit of the whole picture. Track record of success on those quarterly events planned and executed will speak for GDCE and I am looking forward to seeing those successes.
I vote for logo #5
This is a verry much needed "Europeen team " to grow more the echosystem and making it more decentralised and not just the same people doing it all .. + theHackathons are really amazing and he deserve to have his role in all of this + he was there since early days way before all of us to help and educate all on how this network worked .
My vote is a Yes and should be concidered seriously
thank you!
VOTE = YES !
I'll not get into the funding part as that's not my area of expertise but I support any effort from the community that makes the project more decentralized and increases the community participation and development effort on the XDC Network.
VOTE = YES
LOGOT VOTE = OPTION 5.
As a European, I fully support the Developer Community Europe.
In any case, there is help needed in the short to medium future when it comes to the (perm) hiring of;
• Senior Solidity Developer (starting Q1, 2023)
• Senior Solidity Developer (starting Q1, 2023)
• Junior Solidity Developer (starting Q1, 2023)
• Full Stack Developer (starting Q1-Q2, 2023)
• Sales/Bd development Team (already in work)
• Marketing & social coordinator
• Content creator(s) an Copywriter(s)
• Freelancers
Feel free to let me know. My company has a Recruitment arm and also covered Berlin / wider DACH for TECH hires.
VOTE = YES !
I'll not get into the funding part as that's not my area of expertise but I support any effort from the community that makes the project more decentralized and increases the community participation and development effort on the XDC Network.
VOTE = YES and 5 (continuity/recognition with main XDC logo)
Very ambitious and perfect timing. It’s looking like 2023 is the bridge year with 2024 / 2025 being the first years to have both feet planted on the other side for what’s coming to market in Web 3.0 . Congrats!
Vote : Yes
Logo Vote : Option 6
A project with a professionally team which has a clear development plan.
thank you
Yes - 5
Vote: YES LOGO #5
Yes
Option 6
yes - 5
Thanks for this information and voting.
My vote: YES
Logo: option 5.
thank you
I vote : Yesss
Amazing project ❤
Yes
I Vote for logo Option 5
Intelligent and innovative project.
Vote : Yes
Logo : Option 5
VOTE = YES - 1
VOTE YES SIR
YES
I vote for "YES"
and i am picking logo number 3, simple but meaningful, it shows like an Earth linking communities together.
thanks for the feedback!
YES! I vote for Option 5
vote yes
option 6
VOTE = YES ;OPTION 6 LOGO
YES
I voted yes and prefer logo #5👌👌
VOTE = YES
LOGO VOTE = OPTION 5.
I am GER Full-Stack dev. and can only confirm Berlin is full of talent!!
Vote : Yes
Logo Vote : Option 6
Great Project!
It is a true testament to the growth and strength of this community to see these proposals posted here on XDC.dev. The network is at the beginnings of a very exciting stage, one in which we will witness a steep curve towards greater decentralization and the expansion of developers and initiatives on every continent.
Can is a long time community member who has worked tirelessly to curate this community. The work done on the hackathons, his understanding of blockchain and his egalitarian approach to decentralization and community development has brought incredible value to the community and I support his efforts to bring this type of focus and initiative to Europe.
There are many opportunities which can be developed in Europe where the regulatory environment is clearer than the US, which is why building this community effort in Berlin seems to make a lot of sense.
I believe that as we develop this process of proposals here, we will begin to see more and more demand for funds from innovative teams looking to create a friendly and more supportive environment on the network.
Ease of building on the network and resources to support dev teams and entrepreneurs are important factors leading to accelerated growth on the network, leading us closer to a tipping point in the industry where XDC Network stands out among the top projects.
Industry participation is also critical in bringing about awareness and connecting with industry projects and peers and I am glad to see it in this proposal.
With all that said, I think there are some important details which need to be considered.
In order to reach sustainability in year 2 or even 1.5 years into this initiative, it is going to require a run rate of nearly in $39K of weekly revenue. 37% of that weekly cost will be required for fixed overhead of office space, furniture and fixtures, etc.
While I understand the space will be used as an incubator for projects looking to launch, it is a large number out of the gate and a potential burden for an entity in a startup phase. There is also an additional cost of $3200/week for events which brings the total % of Overhead and shows to nearly 45% of weekly costs.
With sustainability being a main focus of this initiative, it begs the question, is there a way to start with a smaller commitment to fixed overhead so that pressure to meet such a high run rate in such a short period of time is reduced?
I understand that the office space will be used for events/training which will produce revenue but with an event marketing budget of less than 1% of the total ask and no other marketing in the proposal, it seems like it could be a tall task so quickly out of the gate.
There is not any mention of hackathons funds for allocated to them, which do not seem to be coming out of the events budget or bounties.
suggestions for more details:
a) Are we get a better understanding of the cost breakdown of the office space and events?
b) Is there a way to achieve sustainability by starting off with smaller fixed costs and growing the budget as you grow?
c) Are you not planning on having hackathons in the future?
d) Can the $500K funding for L2 projects be unlocked on an as needed basis as opposed to 2/3 at kickoff?
Can and team, thank you for the work you put into this proposal. I am exited to think about the good that can come from this for the network and ecosystem growth.
I also think that this is a great place to have this discussion and see how we can support these types of initiatives to succeed.
I vote for logo = 5
I will add my vote after more feedback and discussion.
Thanks, Billy
Hey Billy,
thanks for taking the time to read the proposal and provide your great Input!
a) Let me provide more details, Berlin is one of the most expensive cities for rental housing in Europe, a year-on-year price increase of nearly 40 percent for just one-bedroom apartments. Same for Offices. Office costs will always be one of the main expenses.
A smaller office average costs for the team, with room for courses + 1-2 more Incubation Teams, is around $30k. Everything similar, we can secure for a lower price, will be only adding to our operation time with the proposed budget.
As you've mentioned, it is a very good idea to start with a smaller office and scale up depending on demand, so the office budget could very well cover over 18+Months of office rent costs and with coming revenue this will increase until reaching self-sufficiency.
The outlined costs in the proposal, is where we see this initiative getting within the first 12 Months of operation.
It is important to have the liquidity on-hand when needed to scale immediately.
b) Regarding marketing costs, the developers and Teams we are targeting are in Berlin. It will be a local marketing with mainly In-person efforts on Events and networking. The Sales team does only need a salary and no marketing Budget to reach out to potential Partners worldwide.
To add, I won't be getting any salary, only $1 each month symbolically, until we reach full financial sustainability.
This is to show our dedication for the XDC Network and that I fully stand behind the potential of this proposal.
Marketing and advertising on influential local key developer platforms is a lot more cost-effective than a global marketing outreach.
Berlin is a Blockchain "Powerhouse".
Following, you can see a list of some of the upcoming Blockchain events in Berlin.
Most are free of cost to attend, and advertising / sponsoring is very low cost compared to global events. eventbrite.de/d/germany--berlin/bl... . Our biggest asset for advertising will be the Incubation program.
This is a big asset to local Blockchain Event organizers too, and it's worth more than just sponsoring the events, that's why we see the marketing Budget as sufficient for this effort.
c) We are planning for future Hackathons, but just not with Budget from XF or just minimal for the next one. We want to encourage Industry participation, sponsorship and innovation partnerships + talent recruitment funnel for interested parties. All three are commercialized efforts. Due to this fact, we haven't planned a budget for Hackathons from XF because we are certain that we won't need it after the next Hackathon.
d) the $500k funding for L2 projects will be locked and stay under XDC Ecosystem Development Fund custody. It will be partially requested for strategic investments in startups (with a working MVP) which were incubated by the GDCE in our office in Berlin. We won't have any access to the funding.
Vote=YES 5
Vote = YES Logo 1
I was always wondering why there is no real representation of the Network in Europe. Great work! VOTE = YES 5
Vote=YES 5
VOTE = YES
Yes
In my opinion, the logo that represents XDC the most is the 5th logo
thank you for voting
I VOTE: Yes and Option 5. It’s a good thing for XDC to expand and grow in several places
absolutely!
Let's do this!
I vote YES
I prefer logo 6, simple and minimalist
Vote: No. 5
For me its a standard logo for xdc and should keep it.
Option 5, and I vote yes to this. Big yes. Adding this to the arsenal will accelerate the network a ton!!! I also agree with burning XDC. Deflation to the moon!
I chosse option 3-5, a mix of the two designs.
And for sure i vote YES. If you need a content creator, or vid iam in France so i vote : YES!
I want to see XinFin in my contry and everywhere in Europe and around the world.
Yes
Yes
Option 6
YES - 5
YES. Option 5
YES - 6
YES OPTION 5
YES - 5.
Yes
Logo 5
YES , Option 5.
YES - 6.
YES - 5
Yes please!
Option 5!
YES - 5
VOTE = YES
YES . Option 5
Vote : Yes
Logo Vote : Option 5
Amazing project
YES - 5.
YES
Option6
VOTE : YES
LOGO : OPTION 6
Yes.
3
Vote = yea
Logo option 5
Vote : Yes
Logo Vote : Option 6
Yes. Option 5
YES
VOTE no 5
Yes please!
Option 5!
YES #5
I vote "YES" and I prefer LOGO No. 5
Logo No. 5 looks good 😊
YES
LOGO 5
MY VOTE IS YES!
And i will pick logo number 4, simple but elegant. the symbol shows linking from one goal to another, and linking the community.
VOTE = YES
LOGO = OPTION 3
It’s looking like 2023 is the bridge year with 2024 / 2025 being the first years to have both feet planted on the other side for what’s coming to market in Web 3.0
YES > Option 5
5
YES - 5
Vote = YES
Logo 5
VOTE: Yes
and
Option 5.
Yes - Logo 5 sir
VOTE = Option 6
yes - option 6
I vote YES
Option 5
Vote = yes and i choose option 5.
YES sir
I vote for 5th logo design
Vote = YES
“Transparency”
Logo = 5
Vote = YES
Yes
VOTE YES 5
Let's get it on!
I vote YES
Option 6 for logo, kind of into simple and minimal, yet impact is extraordinary.
Vote=YES 5
Vote = Yes
Logo = Option 6
YES and Logo Number 5 sir
Vote = yes and i choose option 5.
Vote=YES 5
Vote YES
And logo vote i choice option 5
Because very smooth and easy to read it.